Comments on: masculinity and its discontents http://virginiavitzthum.com/ilylm/2007/10/09/masculinity-and-its-discontents/ Adventures in Online Dating Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:06:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Steve http://virginiavitzthum.com/ilylm/2007/10/09/masculinity-and-its-discontents/comment-page-1/#comment-690 Steve Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:37:59 +0000 http://virginiavitzthum.com/ilylm/2007/10/09/masculinity-and-its-discontents/#comment-690 I agree, I think it would have been better in the essay/rant to make the point to those men that they are confusing "nice" with being insecure. I really liked the essay though. When I was a teenager I was a little bit like that. When I was in gradschool I had a housemate who could have been the inspiration for that essay. It was painful to watch him. I agree, I think it would have been better in the essay/rant to make the point to those men that they are confusing “nice” with being insecure.

I really liked the essay though. When I was a teenager I was a little bit like that. When I was in gradschool I had a housemate who could have been the inspiration for that essay. It was painful to watch him.

]]> By: virginia http://virginiavitzthum.com/ilylm/2007/10/09/masculinity-and-its-discontents/comment-page-1/#comment-689 virginia Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:22:53 +0000 http://virginiavitzthum.com/ilylm/2007/10/09/masculinity-and-its-discontents/#comment-689 <p>the heartless bitches had some points, but I gotta say, Sometimes nice is just nice! Not insecure, a pleaser, martyr, passive-aggressive, etc. It seems too bad to throw out a perfectly good word for a very good quality with the bathwater of neuroses that occasionally accompany "nice" behavior, IF I may torture (waterboard I guess it would be) a cliched metaphor to death. </p> <p>Because often, people behave nicely because they are happy, getting what they want, secure and generous. It's not ALWAYS compensation, a trick or something else nasty that causes nice!</p> the heartless bitches had some points, but I gotta say, Sometimes nice is just nice! Not insecure, a pleaser, martyr, passive-aggressive, etc. It seems too bad to throw out a perfectly good word for a very good quality with the bathwater of neuroses that occasionally accompany “nice” behavior, IF I may torture (waterboard I guess it would be) a cliched metaphor to death.

Because often, people behave nicely because they are happy, getting what they want, secure and generous. It’s not ALWAYS compensation, a trick or something else nasty that causes nice!

]]> By: Steve http://virginiavitzthum.com/ilylm/2007/10/09/masculinity-and-its-discontents/comment-page-1/#comment-688 Steve Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:54:38 +0000 http://virginiavitzthum.com/ilylm/2007/10/09/masculinity-and-its-discontents/#comment-688 On a related note, another good article from "Heartless Bitches International" Why "Nice Guys" are often such LOSERS <a href="http://heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml</a> On a related note, another good article from
“Heartless Bitches International”

Why “Nice Guys” are often such LOSERS

http://heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml

]]> By: Steve http://virginiavitzthum.com/ilylm/2007/10/09/masculinity-and-its-discontents/comment-page-1/#comment-685 Steve Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:26:57 +0000 http://virginiavitzthum.com/ilylm/2007/10/09/masculinity-and-its-discontents/#comment-685 I know there are personality traits that I think of "masculine" and "feminine", but I think this guy was stretching things by labeling being blunt, direct as "masculine" and equating being criticized with being "emasculated". I have to say that I found the article to be very insightful and I found the author to have a lot of tact with the way he answered that woman. In regards to the thing about the Ostrich, sending the guy to jail for several months reveals the hypocrisy of our culture in regard to animals. That Ostrich was going to be killed and end up on somebody's plate anyway. If the Ostrich industry is anything like the pig, cattle or chicken industry that Ostrich got a more merciful death by being shot. Given our culture and laws in regards to animals we make immune to cruelty laws since we label them as food, the most that guy should have gotten is a fine for destroying property and maybe trespassing. I know there are personality traits that I think of “masculine” and “feminine”, but I think this guy was stretching things by labeling being blunt, direct as
“masculine” and equating being criticized with being “emasculated”.

I have to say that I found the article to be very insightful and I found the author to have a lot of tact with the way he answered that woman.

In regards to the thing about the Ostrich, sending the guy to jail for several months reveals the hypocrisy of our culture in regard to animals.

That Ostrich was going to be killed and end up on somebody’s plate anyway. If the Ostrich industry is anything like the pig, cattle or chicken industry that Ostrich got a more merciful death by being shot. Given our culture and laws in regards to animals we make immune to cruelty laws since we label them as food, the most that guy should have gotten is a fine for destroying property and maybe trespassing.

]]> By: kmcleod http://virginiavitzthum.com/ilylm/2007/10/09/masculinity-and-its-discontents/comment-page-1/#comment-684 kmcleod Tue, 09 Oct 2007 20:50:16 +0000 http://virginiavitzthum.com/ilylm/2007/10/09/masculinity-and-its-discontents/#comment-684 To the right of the ostricide story on the page is another example of male pattern badness: http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSL0914187920071009 To the right of the ostricide story on the page is another example of male pattern badness:

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSL0914187920071009

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